But those kind of vices too should be thought a bit more thorough when creating a character, in order to have a more interesting time when playing it. If no Ravnos is a thief, the stereotype can't have an origin. I'm not saying the vice can't be a criminal act, like theft or arson. What I'm saying is that the Ravnos weakness is potentially one of the best clan curses, much like Ventrue and Malkavian, since it would allow a great deal of character customization and variations once the 'compulsory criminal' angle is dropped. Or maybe the vice is a sadistic pleasure in draining the kine up to the last drop of blood, unable to stop once the feeding began. A variant of this would be Gluttony for Blood, maybe to the point of burning bloodpool unneccesarily just to feel the urge to feed again. Unfortunately I never had the chance to play a Ravnos as a player, but I think I'd have a good time playing someone that is forced to lie all the time.Īnother interesting compulsion would be breaking the traditions (in more than a sense and more than a way) every time you can.įeeling the urge of indulge in blood-drinking more than necessity would be another cool one. So again, I don't see a big problem here. Of course many players can twist this in very bothersome ways. But I think it has a lot of potential for many interesting characters if handed down as 'all ravnos have a vice to which they have difficulties to resist'. I also understand that the clan weakness handed down as 'compulsory criminal' is terribly delivered that way. But again, I didn't read Ravnos stuff prior to revised edition so it's possible Ravnos were delivered really really badly. I actually think it's a great hook for Ravnos-Gangrel enmity. I find the mafia side stereotype fun, so I'm really not able to see the problem with the gipsy thing. Was the gipsy stereotype really that much bothersome for many? From what I gathered it's a misstep of 2nd edition only. I'd like to know if Ravnos are really so much unpopular among players. Please note that my experience with Ravnos is mainly from Revised edition. Well, the Path of I Do What I Want.īut seriously many Malkavian players manifest the same problems (derangement?), but Malkavians are quite popular. I think much hate is due to bothered Storytellers having players using bothersome discipline of Chimerstry in very bothersome ways, like the player that wanted to make Legolas appear on a roof shooting arrows at enemies (why some players want to disrupt the mood so much is beyond me).Īnother problem I'm sure is the fact that the Path of I Do What I Want is. Or maybe just worse developed than others.

Honestly I think they're a cool clan, albeit more underdeveloped than others.

Reading online I saw many instances and articles about Ravnos being 'worst clan ever', 'white wolf worst idea', and generally regarded as a very terrible clan.

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